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Mike Kanellis is a trillion times better than Stasiak. He gets a bad rep because he's very basic and the antithesis of flashy, but the guy canmore than hold up his end in the ring. Personality wise, he can use some work which is why it surprised me they let him bypass NXT. His ideal rolewill be in a tag team/stable, but I do love that they made him take Maria's last name.

Lana was shockingly decent.

Breezango is gold. Ascension is rust.

Corbin will cash in after Zayn beats Jinder and Owens destroys Zayn because he refuses to allow Sami to have nice things.

And finally, WWE is absolutely planting people in the audience for reactions. They may use real fans if they get the right reactions, but they arefinding people way too quick with the exact perfect reaction for them not to know where to have the cameras facing. Even if you add additional camerasand get a semblance of an idea how a fan will react, they will want to ensure they get the perfect reaction first from a plant and then use a realfan's reaction if it hits what they are looking for.

And that theme song was f*cking fantastic! Just cheesy and catchy... I loved it.

I kinda hope they go all Tazerface with him and this gimmick of taking his wife's surname. I would love for him to cut promos on his opponentstrying to act like a bad ass, but anytime he says his name, they can't help but snicker at him.

quote:Originally posted by Paddlefoot
I believe it's because OO has higher standards when it comes to our whimsical snarkery, hence no one going for the low-hanging fruit of thatparticular comment.

I enjoy how it looks like the logo is winking at you. Can you guess what else is winking at you in this gif? Here's a hint: I'll give you()O() guesses.

ETA: For good measure, here's a twatter page I found dedicated entirely to Lana's mud cutter. You are all very welcome.

https://twitter.com/lanawweass?lang=en

[Edited on 6-19-2017 by janerd75]

Uh, the Woman's MitB was dogsh*t. Anything decent that may have happened before the finish doesn't matter. The finish was awful, and noamount of Smackdown retconning or decision will change the fact that at the moment of the actual match taking place, it had the WWE pissing in thefaces of their fanbase to a large extent. It could have been a break out moment, like the woman's ironman match was awhile back. But nope.

Usos and New Day was an okay match. It just followed a match that left the fans (myself included) pissed off. The ending was a bit of a letdown, butI think if not for the match right before it, it would have been allowable. It's the first meeting of two elite teams, and a heel count outloss-but-still-retain moment is a fine opening chapter. It means we can throw a no-DQ or falls count anywhere or another gimmick into their nexttitle match, and I'm fine with that. In fact, this is the only match that I feel improved in my head today over last night.

Naomi/Lana was uh, okay. Lana has been working hard and it shows. And her ring gear makes the dirty old man side of me ecstatic. But then we had theCarmella stuff that really did nothing and disjointed the match from "passable" downwards to "Eh" on the old Quentil scale. Again, the opener andconsequences drag down the whole front half of the PPV.

Maria and Mike? I have no idea who the Mike guy is, but after looking at his wiki I think he might be a hell of a good add to the WWE. He definitelyhas the resume. Although his lack of gold in RoH, considering his tenure there is surprising. Was he mostly a jobber or something, people who knowthese things? But yeah, he looks good enough.

And I like Maria. Her ringwork and character are fine, and her ass and legs are superior.

That said? f*ck that promo. Holy sh*t was their promo so f*cking bad. This sh*t shouldn't have made a regular Smackdown segment, much less aPPV. I hope they save this sh*t, as the people themselves are/look to be talented enough. But this gimmick is gonna be sh*t. THE POWER OFLOVE~~~~~!

Wow, I got a little angry there recalling that. Huh.

Jinder/Orton? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA. Oh wait, Orton had a fun 45 seconds demolishing the underlings using tables and stuff. I'll give him and the underlings their due for that. But the rest? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. f*ck you, Jinder Mahal.

I like the fashion Police. I feel it's one of the most enjoyable moments of Smackdown. I love pausing it when they show the board each weekand looking for Easter Eggs and the like. I enjoyed them hearing each other's internal monologues, and find their overall bits to be puregenius at their best, and harmless filler at their worst. +100 points for "Fashion Vice." Now only if this...

Oh, the Ascension? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. f*ck you, the Ascension. -10000 points.

Main event was really good. The moment when Styles/Nakamura moved the ladder had my friends and I screaming out loud in support of this badassery. Everyone was fine, and then Baron Corbin wins out of no where. Look, I'm not a huge fan of Baron Corbin. I find him boring, even. But heisn't worthless, and him winning does fit the traditional idea of MitB matches having a guy on cusp cusp of the main event going over. So allof that is fine. I wish the ending had been more exciting, but the match overall was good. And it didn't have Dolph Ziggler winning after areturning Vickie Guerrerro drops him the briefcase, either.

So that's a good thing.

Overall, I'd give the ppv as a whole a 1.5 out of 5 fake stars. It might not be the worst PPV I've ever seen, but it surely wasn'teven approaching mediocrity, either.

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All that screams to me is "We are sh*tty at planning and either have no idea how to clock manage such that we need a 15-20 minute filler" or "Webooked this sh*tty non-PPV worthy event and didn't want to advertise it because see beginning of this sentence".

I'm not naive or stupid enough to know that both of those things exist plentifully....just saying that that should't ever be the case.

quote:Originally posted by williamssl
I initially mistook that Mike dude with Maria as Heath Slater and was concerned about those kids he said he had.

You guys got Heath Slater? I found myself thinking, "Wait, when did Curt Hawkins get sent back to SmackDown!?"

quote:Originally posted by williamssl
I don't believe that there is ever an acceptable situation where unannounced matches end up on the card a la the Breezango/Ascension one lastnight.
....

Your post kind reminds me of those old Mad Magazine bits where "when they say this; this is what they really mean"... spot on analysis of how badlythe WWE doesn't realize what they are really telling their fans.

I think last night was extra worse because of how thin the card was going in; and how you could have easily done a bit more work leading into thisshow to either build up a surprise opponent (which would have given you another reason to want to watch... although, there is no universe where theAscension was the right answer to what team will surprise the fans... in a good way), or at the least put a bit more heat on the match so that itmeans something.

What the WWE told us was:
*They don't care to build a full PPV card
*They can't manage their time
*They don't care enough to build up the Fashion Police's matches to mean something
*They thought the Ascension was a good idea for a surprise.

That's just one segment/thread throughout the PPV as well... throw in the rest of the shows colossal miscalculations and it doesn't saymuch for their ability to give us reasons to tune in for PPV's, never mind their weekly shows. It's one thing to disagree on a directionor a choice (like say Corbin winning the MITB) but it's another when they clearly tell the fans that they don't care to do their jobs wellcause' we'll just tune in anyway.

�It was a fun atmosphere. I know that might not be popular to say here what with everyone defaulting to that sucked/was underwhelming, but it was alot of fun.

�Women's MITB: As ironic as it is that the first women's MITB case was pulled down by a man (enter JBL comment about him being a mutant),for storyline, getting heat on Carmella, and developing her character, it was perfect. They're trying to build another viable, credible heel,and while that easily could have been done by her climbing the ladder herself, arming her with a smug sense of accomplishment will only help her out.Plus, we're getting closer to a Lynch-Ellsworth match, one that needs to be booked as Lynch beating the ever-loving brakes off of James. Asidefrom that, it was a fun match and Charlotte took her crazy bump, which I'm all about.

�Tag titles: Good match, and holy sh*t were the Usos born to play a heel team. Really good heel teamwork by them. A few botches happened, but a goodmatch and, again, the right way to book finish. The Usos are too good to take the titles off of right now, but the New Day shouldn't lose itsfirst Smackdown PPV match. It was lame and unclean, but there's more story to tell, so I'm OK with it.

�Women's title match: Lana...wasn't bad. I mean, she clearly needs more reps, but she sort of has the heel mannerisms down, and she canonly get better in the ring. Carmella teasing a cash-in, then just kickin' it outside was fine with me. It's building a character.I'm hoping Naomi gets a good heel to work with, because that's definitely going to be in her best interest. She's good and will getbetter, but someone like Nattie or another veteran heel will elevate her. Also, I like her winning on submission. Nice wrinkle.

�Fashion Vice: Nails. Everything was nails, and it played really well with the crowd, too.

�Mike and Maria: Sorta flat. I couldn't tell if the gimmick is that they're in love, or they're playing the part of some couple thatmet on a reality show or something. We'll see what the result was.

�WWE title match: Jinder's theme is awesome. Randy was way over in STL, though I think it'd be more 50/50 anywhere else. I know myhometown, and if anybody is gonna be a heel in St. Louis, it'd be Jinder f*cking Mihal. OK match; I wish we'd have gotten some Naitchchops or Cowboy Bob wearing a cast. Boy does Randy love tossing the Singh boys around. I get it, but can we stop letting Randy just drop them on theirheads on the announce table. It's hard to watch.

�Breezango v. The Ascension: My buddy and I were convinced it'd be heel Alphas, but it wasn't. So, this match just ended up being onethat, you know, happened.

�MITB match: Nice little swerve to have Baron Corbin attack Nakamura to start. Btw, Corbin hates fun and all the wonderful things that go with it,which I think is good heeling. He thrives in matches like that where there aren't rules and he can throw dudes around.

Sam Zayn was the star of this match to me. He took bumps, he did crazy sh*t, he nearly killed KO (that half-and-half suplex on anything other than anempty canvas makes me super uncomfortable, and I wish they'd stop). Styles, too, was pulling out his good sh*t, though I thought he'd bejumping off more sh*t than he did. I'm glad KO is still alive. A little girl sitting behind us actually got her KO action figure signed by "TheNew Face of America", which proves he does, in fact, just play a jerk on TV and is actually a swell guy. Zigs was...there.

Nakamura returning got a HUGE pop, and him clearing the ring was pretty cool. The staredown with Styles was over HUGE; I thought when Baron took himout to start that Shinsuke would win, but Corbin winning was the right call. He's the one person there who can really do something big with thatcase and it adds to his ��I know I've used this term a lot ��character development. He's totally capable of kicking ass on his own, but heprefers to be a nozzle-ass dick about it. That's the kind of character I can get behind hating.

I thought this show had the potential to be the best top-to-bottom card of the year, especially with the MITB participants. It wasn't as good asI thought it was going to be, but it was my first WWE live event in more than a decade, so I enjoyed it nonetheless.

quote:Originally posted by jaymosley6

�Women's MITB: As ironic as it is that the first women's MITB case was pulled down by a man (enter JBL comment about him being a mutant),for storyline, getting heat on Carmella, and developing her character, it was perfect. They're trying to build another viable, credible heel,and while that easily could have been done by her climbing the ladder herself, arming her with a smug sense of accomplishment will only help her out.Plus, we're getting closer to a Lynch-Ellsworth match, one that needs to be booked as Lynch beating the ever-loving brakes off of James. Asidefrom that, it was a fun match and Charlotte took her crazy bump, which I'm all about.